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Honestly people,I know people who noodle,stick their hands under logs and rocks for giant cat fish.I would not do it but I respect the hell out of them,they got guts.The practice originated with the Native Americans.The people on Deadliest Catch also call what they do fishing.Recently I took a trip with some food fisherman who run limb lines at night on Dale.it was more fun than i thought it would be,being out there in the dark not knowing what was on the line if anything at all.Hearing it thrash about as the boat approached.Was it the target channel cat.or a big snapping turtle or perhaps a copperhead.Live bait,lures,spears,dynamite,jugs,the human hand.What is fishing?

I like the question, if the end result is fish, I'd call it fishing. (except going to "Pier 1" at the grocery store)
It seems easy to question methods, but if you look at most methods there is enough information you need to know to do them successfully that they all have their degree of difficulty. I know which methods I know and which I do not. The "do not" catagory is much bigger than the "do". I'm a wader, being in the river, reading the river, walking to any spot... feels pretty connected.
of course the after work runs are almost always shore fishing excursions.

speaking of methods, has anyone ever used Dan Barnett's Feeding Times / Lunar chart? I've always seen it in the magazine I get but never really tried to base a fishing trip on it. Any success stories? believers or not?

Whalen wrote:I like the question, if the end result is fish, I'd call it fishing. (except going to "Pier 1" at the grocery store)
It seems easy to question methods, but if you look at most methods there is enough information you need to know to do them successfully that they all have their degree of difficulty. I know which methods I know and which I do not. The "do not" catagory is much bigger than the "do". I'm a wader, being in the river, reading the river, walking to any spot... feels pretty connected.
of course the after work runs are almost always shore fishing excursions.

I think that sums it up well.

I guess i would call myself an artificial bait fisherman. The bass tournaments i fish explicitly ban trolling and live bait( i don't care for either method anyway...) so its 100% lures and rod and reel in hand for me. When i get out on my boat hundreds of casts are the order of the day. someday i want to learn to fly fish but right now its just not my bag.

Fishing is so much more than trolling Dale Hollow!
although, trolling Dale Hollow is Fishing,

Hope that helps FFG, I'm glad you're trying to figure it out...

Whalen, great question, I am still on the fence with the lunar charts,

I have been skunked during "great" times (some being planned lunar attacks)
and I have crushed during "poor" times.

BBTT is a believer and he even gets it fed to him on the Iphone, I think local weather (in Colorado) can over-rule the lunar chart and a small rain storm could turn the fish on or off as much if not more? I would be interested to hear what the ocean fisherman say about this...

Not to stir the pot but I don't see a whole lot of difference between trolling and using an GPS enabled electric motor to follow contours around a lake while you cast to the fish. Either way the lure gets put on the fish and you reel them in.

Now live bait fishing with a bobber...now THAT's fishing!

I hope FFG can find the time to "figure it out". He's always busy putting clients on monster fish.

I hope he has time to figure it out too PoopDeckDoug, it will probably take him a while...

I've seen the moon lunar phase crap affect musky activity specifically, but ONLY when favorable light conditions are present. Old Man Perry, Buck himself, the father of modern fishing knowledge, said that all fish activity was governed negatively or postively by light levels, or more specifically, different parts of the light spectrum [that even he after 70 years of catching fish EVERYWHERE of all species, could not totally isolate and entirely predict, as there are too many factors governing it once it hits the water...clarity current, etc....]. In my experience, local weather and water conditions FAR outweigh lunar tables, but if all the other pieces are in place, be aware of those lunar factors and position yourself at the prime times in areas of structural qualification to hold fish and there's a good chance they'll get active and move up.

My two cents...